Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. Baseball burnt him out. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Bob P NO WAY he was 170 pounds. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. (Note: others featured in that section were the Knicks' Toby Knight and his wife and Rangers enforcer Nick Fotiu and his very leggy wife and kids)I also had the unfortunate opportunity to score the game against the Phillies where pitcher Larry Christensen belted TWO home runs off Lolich on a hot Sunday afternoon. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. March 5, 2006 Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. 6'1", 170???? (thankfully returning in '81). Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. The point is he made a bad team worse. December 24, 2001 June 2, 2006 HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. As it is, he was traded to a team with a set of already existent aces- Seaver and Koosman. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. Other than some one saying he ate donuts rather than come back to NY, does anyone know the real reason why he didn't pitch in 77? As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. You can't be serious. December 20, 2019 Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. - Now for the trade itself. We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. Did you boo him or make fun out of him? Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. Bartolo Colon etc). April 24, 2003 September 24, 2005 What an interesting parallel, huh? November 3, 2006 or Bruce Kison. Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. Bartolo Colon etc). Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. Jim Snedeker And Rusty Staub? December 13, 2007 pete But this one defied all logic from the beginning. etc. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. June 30, 2019 (thankfully returning in '81). This has never happened before? 6'1", 170???? He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. He had terrific stuff. November 12, 2006 Mickey was featured riding his motorcyle. No contest. Ramblin' Pete $184.99. As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. October 19, 2011 As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. Other than some one saying he ate donuts rather than come back to NY, does anyone know the real reason why he didn't pitch in 77? End of Line or Bruce Kison. Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. Really? September 29, 2007 So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. January 12, 2011 The last thing the Tigers needed was a dandy hitter whose hitting only went to support lopsided slugfest losses every day. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. Shari That's more realistic but generous, I think! September 24, 2005 My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. He wanted to finish out his career in Detroit, where he had some great years (the photo of him jumping on Bill Freehan after the final out in the 1968 World Series is a classic). January 12, 2011 His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. Kooz We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. (thankfully returning in '81). Jamey Bumbalo bob saunders eddiek As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. He also had a terrific arm and was a darn good fielder. Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. Joe Figliola body would be a pretty slender person. The fact of the matter is New York is a what have you done for me lately kind of city, and when Lolich came to the Mets he pitched like a nobody. June 11, 2003 Search instead in Creative? So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. August 7, 2018 I still remember the Mets broadcast team trying to build him up in the eyes of the fans because he had been a Cy Young award winner. October 19, 2011 =Chuck= That's pretty good this day in age. =Chuck= Quarry says he will soon have a book of his poems published, titled. May 24, 2002 $4.99 shipping. This has never happened before? Mike B December 20, 2019 I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. That's pretty good this day in age. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. Mickey Lolich so despised the Mets experience that he sat home and ate donuts for a year rather than play again in New York. He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. Perfect for planning your Mets pilgrimages! But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. Hey Mets Fan, Lolich never asked to be traded to New York. John Bruce March 5, 2006 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. Mickey loved his Harley. July 31, 2002 Joe Figliola July 15, 2016 I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. Shari November 3, 2006 It turns out that Jerry Quarry is a better poet than Muhammad Ali and a better singer than Joe Frazier. Mickey loved his Harley. snook (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. December 8, 2006 April 24, 2003 Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! He started 45 games and completed 29. That's pretty good this day in age. Lolich for Staub---it might be the fattest trade in major league history. August 11, 2015 Man, he was a big one. December 13, 2007 I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. Larry Burns Al Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. But he was not a career Tiger. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. All he represents for me was one of the many horrendous choices the Mets have made over the years, always going after washed up has-beens past their prime. C'mon John, the Mets did the Tigers a huge favor by taking this washed-up pitcher off their hands and giving them a great hitter like Rusty. Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. 3-time AL All-Star (1969, 1971 & 1972) 1968 World Series MVP AL Wins Leader (1971) AL Innings Pitched Leader (1971) AL Strikeouts Leader (1971) AL Complete Games Leader (1971) AL Shutouts Leader (1967) The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. Jim Snedeker October 4, 2006 Lolich has been retired since 1979, after having won 217 games, plus 3 more in the 1968 World Series, when he led Detroit to a victory over the Cardinals. But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. The fact of the matter is New York is a what have you done for me lately kind of city, and when Lolich came to the Mets he pitched like a nobody. November 28, 2001 Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. But Don Grant was bananas, and he took the first decent offer he received. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. September 29, 2007 Mike B July 15, 2016 However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. November 10, 2002 I had never heard my mother get so angry at a Mets player. October 4, 2006 August 7, 2018 The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. I guess the idea that everyone loves a jolly fat guy is true. August 7, 2018 Bob P However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. Now I have the opportunity not to do what I disliked seeing.''. He had terrific stuff. June 11, 2003 April 23, 2003 August 11, 2015 He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. Mickey Lolich played for 16 season with 3. What a sore disapppointment it was to see Staub take over rightfield (with his gnat's piss arm) after watching Kaline out in right all of those years in Detroit. June 2, 2006 Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. Stu Baron to the Village of Leonard. As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." June 30, 2019 August 7, 2002 Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. Laura15yearoldmodel April 23, 2003 After one year in New York Lolich retired. May 8, 2003 Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. April 23, 2003 MR. Sparkle Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Bobster1985 I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. That would make him a star in today's market. April 20, 2002 He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. His career was short and stormy. In my opinion, there are only three candidates for worst trade in Mets history:1) Staub for Lolich 2) the Ryan trade 3) the Seaver tradeI believe the Seaver trade was the worst, for obvious reasons. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! June 11, 2003 He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! Mike B Lolich struck out more American League hitters than any other lefty in the history of baseball- that includes Randy Johnson, etc. October 19, 2011 But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. October 19, 2011 Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. He served up a home run, and my mother screamed "Lolich, you fat jerk, you stink!!!" As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." That's more realistic but generous, I think! senor ortiz - Now for the trade itself. I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. Lolich hit a home run in the World Series- and so what does that mean, that he was a great hitter? Even a STINK BARGE collected waste from outhouses. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the Stu Baron Raymond Malcuit Feat Fan He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. December 20, 2019 So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? Fact is Lolich was always overweight. December 20, 2019 Mr. Sparkle That's pretty good this day in age. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. Believe me if he pitched like the ace he was in Detroit no one here would have been so quick to criticize the trade. I thought Rusty filled that uniform out pretty well himself! Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. Not to say the trade wasn't awful - but come on! April 23, 2003 Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. Bartolo Colon etc). February 25, 2003 Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. November 12, 2006 God bless him wherever he is and good luck! He started 45 games and completed 29. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. Bob P I know the one in Lake Orion was probably open till the early 90s. But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. He had terrific stuff. After one year in New York Lolich retired. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. He had terrific stuff. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. - It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. Bob P June 30, 2019 6'1", 170???? And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. End of Line These kit cottages were sold by Lake Orion Lumber. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? Rusty played another decade. October 13, 2008 April 23, 2003 How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. Mike B Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. August 7, 2018 And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. Fattest guy ever to grace a Mets uniform etc. Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. Ramblin' Pete But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. 170 lbs.? But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. And complaining about how fat he was? For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. July 15, 2016 February 25, 2003 Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. I agree with Doughnut Shoppe patron. He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. It's mildly surprising, then, to see Thomas laughing and talking and forking down the spicy vegetarian pasta on a sunny afternoon in L.A. A lot has changed for Thomas in the 20 years since he dazzled and mystified the NFL. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. Lolich hit a home run in the World Series- and so what does that mean, that he was a great hitter? The '68 World Series hero Mickey Lolich became an important and popular part of Lake Orion when he opened Lolich's Donut and Pastry Shop on Lapeer Road next to the Lake Orion Post Office. Lolich was a newcomer that was a big loser, and he reminded us of how stupid the Mets management was for always going after fading superstars. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. GoMets2006 Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. October 4, 2006 Lolich was a fine pitcher. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. And complaining about how fat he was? As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. Bob P The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. November 19, 2002 Bob P I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. The last thing the Tigers needed was a dandy hitter whose hitting only went to support lopsided slugfest losses every day. It was not made for the purpose of improving the team. August 11, 2015 Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. =Chuck= ", At 44, Thomas looks 24 and weighs 15 pounds less than the 220 pounds he carried while with the Cowboys. But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. He had terrific stuff. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. December 20, 2019 So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. He pitched very good ball for you. Maybe Rusty was not in his prime when the Tigers got him, but the man could still swing the bat. April 23, 2003 Peter to realizing he was one of the worst trades in Mets history, before Seaver went to the Reds. No contest. Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. Donut Shoppe Patron Baseball burnt him out. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. different rastafarian groups, what is sasha obama studying at university, A 3/4 delivery that thrived on the all-time strikeout mickey lolich donuts with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton left-handers. October 19, 2011 =chuck= that 's more realistic but generous, remember... 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